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As we ponder our daily feeds, either rejoicing at an inevitable victory in November, or cringing as a Republican, knowing defeat is almost certain, it might be time to consider making some changes to society so that this type of thing (Donald Trump) doesn’t happen again.
Why exactly do we have Donald Trump as a real possibility of becoming president?
- Democrats don’t want him.
- The Republican leadership doesn’t want him.
- Hispanics don’t want him.
- Muslims don’t want him.
- Women don’t want him.
- Blacks don’t want him.
- Big Business doesn’t want him.
- Investors don’t want him.
- Catholics don’t want him.
No Republican has ever run alienating all of the above. Yet this one is! So the question has to be asked since it IS obvious that he got the most votes and often by rather large margins….. how did so many Americans get fooled into voting for someone so unqualified and so unbalanced they are unable to handle the office at hand?
The most likely answer is that they voted for something else they thought they were getting, but like Trump University students, they got shafted. We can be dismissive of them,. calling them stupid “whatevers”…. But the reality is that most of them aren’t stupid. They have decent brains and they know how to use them, just lapsed in this one solitary case… In the real world they run businesses, they run state governments, they perform difficult tasks for their employers; no, they are not stupid as measured by a psychologist. But somehow they all got duped….
I was curious as to how. How could so many Americans get this wrong? Trump received 13,406,108 votes by someone’s calculation… Many were members of my extended family.
I saw a glimpse today as to why…..when Sean Hannity just showed us why the upcoming blowout Trump loss, wouldn’t end the GOP’s civil war..
“On his radio show Wednesday, Hannity rather amazingly sought to pre-blame the Republican establishment for a Trump loss in 2016.
“If in 96 days Trump loses this election, I am pointing the finger directly at people like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham and John McCain and John Kasich and Ted Cruz — if he won’t endorse – and Jeb Bush and everybody else that made promises they’re not keeping,” Hannity said.
He added: “I have watched these Republicans be more harsh towards Donald Trump than they’ve ever been in standing up to Barack Obama and his radical agenda … . They did nothing. Nothing.”
Right here, even after a disastrous convention, even after the def-con 5 week afterwards, Sean Hannity is blaming moderate or actual working members of the Republican Party for Trump’s ultimate upcoming blowout in November. How silly is this? Did those 7 Republicans he mentioned by name, pick on a Gold Star family? No, all seven were blindsided by the affair and had to quickly distance themselves from Trump’s controversy because most of their constituents do love and support the military. Did those 7 Republicans throw out a crying baby? No, all seven of them love babies, albeit better when they aren’t crying. Did those 7 ask 3 times why we couldn’t use nuclear weapons? No, all seven of those already know why…….
Yet Hannity is blasting these members of the Republican Party for not standing with Trump while he appears to be grasping for the detonator on his explosive suicide vest….
Who is this Hannity, … the freaking devil?
And that’s when….. I understood….
IF YOU ONLY SEE ONE SIDE OF EVERY ISSUE, THAT IS ALL YOU ARE GOING TO BELIEVE……
So instead of ignoring all the Republican memes today, I asked most of them, “do you ever watch the Fox Network?” And all of those posting memes still supporting Trump, said “yes”… I said, “how often?” and as you would expect, usually the answers paralleled “all the time.”
So here’s the problem with Free Speech. When you give only lies not balanced by truth, you will get people who’ll believe the lies. For how could they not? If you reach a lot of people, you have a lot of people who’ll believe the lie over truth…because to them, what they know, they deem IS the truth.
It correlates to this:
“Sean Hannity’s ratings boost, on the other hand, has been phenomenal. Hannity now comes in third in the demo, right behind Kelly, and fifth overall. His audience grew by over a third since last April, and it seems very clear where that dynamic originates. While Bill O’Reilly has been somewhat sympathetic to Donald Trump, Hannity has been outright enthusiastic about Trump.” POSTED AT 2:01 PM ON MAY 9, 2016 BY ED MORRISSEY
Hannity with 1.8 million viewers versus 1.3 million votes for Trump? Any correlation?
One thing about television viewing is that you can’t watch two screens at once. You can read two newspapers one after another, you can read multiple reports on line one after each other, you can switch stations on your car radio driving home from work. But if you want to see news told to you by a human face sometime between dinner and bed, you are going to watch one channel, the one you feel most comfortable. And a good network, is going to profile itself to your demographic so you will feel compelled to watch and thereby help it boost its ratings.
Thus, you will only get news you want to hear. Most likely what you hear will be a fabrication. It may even have no truth. They may leave out several vital points in its telling and put blame on other’s actions to provide a possible reason which explains the gap over what they purposefully hid. (Example: Hannity’s spout above). If you only watched that one channel or network in an alternate universe, you’d never know about the real world.
Trump’s ascendancy makes this a national crises. Instead of having two choices for president, we now realistically only have one. Up to this moment we thought we had enough safeguards in place to protect our liberties so we wrung our hands in exasperation, but never thought we’d ever look at doing something about it. But the idea of a Trump presidency makes many of us think our nation is about to end. After Trump’s nuclear exchange, some think the whole world is about to end.
Yet on my social media, I see there are still many people who “don’t see it”. Every counter argument or piece of additional evidence handed to them is ignored as coming from the “liberal” media. And no doubt this is very bad for a democracy. You need discussion. You need opposing views. But we have large numbers of people who willingly support a tyrant solely because he won’t moderate or soften his views under any criticism (or reality).
That veteran actually gave him his purple heart? (I’m betting at some future point in his life, he’s going come to his senses and want that back). In his own mind, or in his own fabrication based on what he’s been told about America, he obviously believed that his gesture was magnanimously going to change America’s opinion of his hero. “We veterans support you, Mr. Trump.” That is not something one does flippantly or lightly. I bet he has no idea that most of America right now is thinking him the biggest deluded fool on our planet.
We must ask how can that be? What brought us to this point? How can someone so attuned to what makes America great, be so deluded? I looked to find collaboration. I remembered the often quoted PEW study on the polarization of America’s views. We heard a lot about this in 2014 leading up to the mid term election.
Democrats and Republicans by this study were more ideologically divided than in the past.
Prior to Gingrich’s revolution, we could all get along for the most part. In 2014, everybody was the bad guy. What could have created that?
Political intransigence for one. Gingrich’s revolution after 1994 was based on not compromising with anybody; it was either his way or the highway… (When it went negative after they shut the government down, he softened his approach). But back in 1994 uncompromising was something brand new and prior to him we’d never seen the likes of it before. Some blame both sides (Republicans usually) for intransigence, but when one blindsides you with a sucker punch, you don’t respond with, “oh, dude; looks like your hand accidentally impacted my face. Let’s have a beer and talk about it”… You punch them back with every intent on hurting them as hard as they hurt you. (It’s how wars get started.) Gingrich probably was the catalyst that started the migration to the poles instead of remaining happily congregated together in the center.
But that could not have happened in a vacuum. Had the same occurred in the 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, or 80’s, Gingrich would have lasted just one term and no one would have supported him. Prior to that, being recalcitrant was simply unelectable. It had been tested by fringe candidates, all who were never elected. No, something was different in the nineties that insulated this group of iconoclasts and allowed them to continue with impunity.
The repeal of the Fairness Doctrine—which had required that stations provide free air time for responses to any controversial opinions that were broadcast—by the FCC in 1987 meant stations could broadcast editorial commentary without having to present opposing views. Daniel Henninger wrote, in a Wall Street Journal editorial, “Ronald Reagan tore down this wall (the Fairness Doctrine) in 1987 … and Rush Limbaugh was the first man to proclaim himself liberated from the East Germany of liberal media domination. —Wikipedia
When the Republican Party won control of Congress in the 1994 midterm elections, the freshman Republican class awarded Limbaugh an honorary membership in their caucus.
On October 7th, 1996, Rupert Murdoch launched the Fox News Network to just 17 million subscribers. He publicly announced its formation on January 31st, 1996. In February he wooed Roger Ailes from NBC”s “America’s Talking” to run it. At its October 7th launch, only 10 million households were able to watch Fox News, none in the major media markets of New York City and Los Angeles. Many media reviewers concentrated in those two cities had to watch the first day’s programming at Fox News’ studios because it was not readily available. By the 2000 presidential election, Fox News, which was available in 56 million homes nationwide, saw a staggering 440% increase in viewers, the biggest gain among the three cable news television networks…. Wikipedia
Strange things began happening according to the Pew Study.
We became more antagonistic to the other party. In 1994 almost no one thought the other party was a danger to the nation’s well being. Of course they may be misguided, but a danger? Ha. Even in 2004 there were statistically none feeling such. But that has significantly changed in the past 10 years. Now the others’ unfavorables hover around 40% with 3/4ths of them in each party considering the other party to be an enemy to the nation’s well being. In light of this almost all of us would be willing to fight for our country to protect it from danger. So if we are being teased into thinking our country is sinking into mortal danger by “those other people”, then it very likely that among some of us, our emotional fight or flight propensities would be liable to surface easily.
Have you ever noticed how well people get along, until politics get mentioned?
That is because more and more we have little in common. Not in reality. In the real world we have quite a bit in common. Most of us belong to the 99%. Most of us have some type of spiritualism or religion. Most of us graduated through public school. Most of us watched the same shows growing up, heard the same musicians on our radios, and read many of the same books our schools insisted we should. We have a lot more commonality now due to media’s intrusion in our lives, than did our ancestors living in the last century. So why is there no middle ground?
And I think Sean Hannity showed us exactly why today. Which would be just another media grab for his persona, if it weren’t for the following news items going on at the same time. Question of Trump quitting? News of Trump letting Pence run both domestic and international policy while Trump concentrates on “Making America Great Again”? I love babies; get that baby outta’ here, what was she thinking? For the third time, can you tell me why we can’t use nuclear weapons? I’m just not there yet with endorsing possibly my future House Speaker for his Congressional seat up this November… Not to mention his continuing obsession with Khan’s DNC mentioning his name. And if you do follow conservative media posts, you saw as recent reality begins to dawn that they’re about to lose big, their posts have begun filling up with talk of armed civil war, as in the Bundys-on-steroids….
Sean Hannity showed us exactly why today…. There was no rationality in his statement. None. It was a complete fabrication, a complete misinterpretation, and totally and completely irrational. Yet it was said, to the Wall Street Journal even.
It was “Fire” in a crowded theater! Courts have ruled that saying “fire” is not an exercise in free speech and such can be deemed to be criminal and damages can be leveled against it perpetrators.
So, if we survive after this November, for the future how do we fix it? I sweat thinking what could happen. I really don’t think we ever want this to happen again, do we? I would rather we have more civil public discourse between ideas and values, instead of Jerry Springer fist fights, slurs, name calling, and massive societal “unfriending”‘s…. Am I alone here?
If we choose to fix this, we will need to come up with a line over which one cannot cross, one that separates free speech from yelling “fire” on our public airwaves. We will need to come up with some way that holds our news celebrity people accountable for what they say.
- Opening them to lawsuits, could be one option.
- Forcing equal time, could be another.
- A daily fact check of the night before, available to all, might work.
- A revocation of a necessary license if caught in a lie just once.
But these come with their own problems. Just imagining the opposition leveling these against us should give us pause in pursuing any of the above to curb future harm. If not very careful, we could be creating more harm towards the free exchange of ideas.
Other options could include posting a Madow or similar report following a Hannity or similar report and vice versa on the other side’s channels. Imagine after hearing Ted Cruz, you got to hear Bernie Sanders?
Or placing such equal time laws and responsibilities only on our most successful characters… Perhaps starting at over 1 million regular viewers, you do have to have some fair and balanced reporting on the same channel, even the same show… That would still allow for legal unlimited expression on cable among everyone else without moderation. Those independent shows no matter how extreme, never were a problem. There are so many of those, I never watched; nor does anyone else except their mother perhaps. Therefore whereas Bill O’Reilly must have someone pointing out his inconsistencies right after he utters them, so should Rachel; but Jamal the Reggie Bandmaster can say anything thing he wants at 3:30 am.
Or perhaps only allowing even numbers of opposing-view stations in a market at a time. You have Fox, you must have another to enter at the same time; just that you can’t have large areas under only one network.
Yet these two ideas also have their problems with enforcement and creation. Whatever reasonable solution we eventually find, it will need to stand up to court challenges against anyone’s misconception over what the First Amendment allows.
When television first landed, we had restrictions, particularly the Fairness Doctrine. Reasons being for one, we were a lot closer to WWII and saw a once great and noble nation (one fourth of us were German too) go down a path of someone’s senseless power addiction and their nation’s ultimate destruction. Also we knew well how the Soviet Union kept their population from rebelling against what no American would accept as status quo. We had seen under totalitarianism the power of a single voice in media and we only allowed television if it agreed to benefit all its citizens, not just titillate them. By today’s standards, heavy censorship was applied and enforced.
Can we go back to that? Doubtful as it seems right now, we may not have heard the last of Trump’s crazy utterances. Our future may dictate that option again be available to us, reluctant as we are right now to accept it. But to stave that off, this topic now becomes one more thing we need to consider during this election cycle…
When Hillary wins, what are we going to do with the Fox News Network to make sure such disinformation or manipulation never happens on such a scale to harm our nation again?
We hate each other… not because of who they are, but because of what we are told they want to do to our country. Even Cowboys and Eagles fans get along better than Democrats and Republicans once Fox News becomes the topic of conversation. We should not be in such straits. Our uppermost levels of animosity should always remain in sport’s fan-ship; not in whether our democratic nation can last as a democracy. On that topic we should all be working together towards a common goal. We need to kill that messenger who keeps dividing us, even when deep inside we really don’t want to be divided……
51% of the country cheered when they first heard police were shot by snipers in retaliation for the unnecessary shootings making the rounds these past two days. The other 49% reacted with regret.
But those other 49% cheered the two blacks being killed.. Ha, take that, Obama!….. (referring to Tea Party Congressman Walsh’s currently calling for both Black Lives Matter leaders and Obama’s assassination).
Social media today is full of everyone’s pontifications. The point lost however, is that shaming is ineffective when the people you are trying to shame, are proud of what they did. Just as when you are proud of what you do, you care little about how your enemies try to paint you, probably because their reaction, justifies your original action.
True “Wisdom” calls both sides out for being wrong… Because if there is one lesson taught by world history, it is that violence begets violence and the only way to stop it, is for one side to completely disappear, as in down to zero, or… both sides become so tired of the costs they negotiate a solution,… the latter which could have just as easily been wrought WITHOUT all the costly violence transpiring.
War’s only solution is to stop it cold prior to the very first provocation.
To understand this train of thought, one first needs to understand violence. Violence occurs when people become frustrated that justice is being ignored by a majority of the status quo. Whether you are ISIS, black, or a Republican Christian like Timothy McVey, you resort to violence because you can express your anger on that playing field, whereas you are completely boxed up on all others….
In study of conflict after conflict, there is roughly a six month window in which solutions acceptable to both sides can occur. The first violence is a surprise. Neither side is mobilized and interior battles are still ongoing between the moderates and extremists of either position.
If things quickly change for the better, in each group it is the moderates who gain more followers as extremists lose them: “Whew, good thing we didn’t start fighting; everything worked out well”. BUT, if nothing quickly changes, it becomes the extremists who gain the upper hand in each organization, simply because what they offer is something different than inaction: “not fighting the bully” is not working; “fighting the bully” is the only viable plan left.”
It is at these points where controlling governments make their mistake. They respond reactively instead of proactively. They are reacting logically which does nothing to appease the rampant emotions surrounding the issue. If they prosecute these officers and prosecute the police murderers (the logical solution) they do nothing to stem future racist officers from killing other blacks or other angry blacks from killing future police officers… the violence continues which conveys the frustrating message that nothing has changed
When the perception appears that nothing has been done, the attraction to more violence, grows.
Today’s events blatantly illustrate this. Louisiana’s Democratic Governor turned the Baton Rouge case over to the Feds. who we all know could never be persuaded to white wash what happened and lie to protect the police officers. That should had ended the controversy behind the first shooting. Over! Done! Justice will be served… But that reaction was dwarfed by another event, a totally unrelated video shot a thousand miles to the north. And now that video just got overshadowed by the sniping at cops in Dallas. Are we done yet? Or will another video surface today?
To prevent chaos, you have to jump over the crises of today and intercept tomorrow’s crises before it happens. This usually requires an illogical action that is so bizarre, it puzzles the will and stops all in their tracks while they analyze what in the heck you just did. Successful tyrants have done this across history. Imagine for example if we arrested and imprisoned without bail, the Koch Brothers and the officers of the NRA, and shut down Fox News. This shock would be enough to stop the violence. You reacted and stopped cold the root cause of the violence; instead of just treating the symptoms.
Were you to do this, those racist officers intent on starting a race war, would be afraid that doing so would put their superiors in jeopardy, which would be harder for them to live through than going through what has now become the standard acquittal process. Particularly those superiors feeling the threat, would seminar those in the streets with daily reminders to shoot no one for any reason, lest the “real Law” comes for the boss to take him away….
This immediately changes the culture in police departments everywhere. Within hours. You go from being afraid for your life, to being afraid of losing your job which to a police person, is a far greater fear than that of losing ones life, a risk you accepted when you took the job.
Admittedly, this would be difficult to do in America because we are a nation founded on the principle of moving slowly by consensus. But it was quite effective in Soviet Russia during Stalin’s tenure and in North Korea today. That is how autocratic nations are run. Grab someone randomly who is no more guilty of crimes than were those dead police officers or the two black gunned down, and punish them. Since you don’t know who your actions will hurt, you don’t propagate any. Here in America, the equivalent would be to arrest the Koch’s…. and since they’d be a flight risk, … no bail.
But just imagine if the NRA, Koch’s, and Fox News were suddenly leaderless. Silence on the NRA’s part, no secret money funneled to hate groups on the Koch’s part, and no propaganda on Fox News Part.. Instead we would see it for what it is: crazy people doing crazy things and being punished by the calm rule of lawt. We would be told such was the cost of freedom and shown fractions like 7/319,000,000 to drive home the point that 318,999,993 of us have little to worry over… We would be reminded of how there are 900,000 police officers in the United States, and how only 3 of them killed with no provocation these last two days. We could be told that if you get pulled over you have an 899,997/900,000 chance of having no life threatening situation occur.
And if we become convinced that we have little to worry over, the costs of instigating violence to ourselves and our families far outweigh any gain we would otherwise see….
Because when you deal with people who access to weapons, you can’t stop violence with force… Iraq’s occupation was one example. Britain’s domination of Ireland is another. Palestine versus Israel is a third. You only stop violence by making those individuals who are armed, not want to hurt anyone….
And that will require a lot of changes… A police force can offer free hugs in a university town all it wants, but until you stop the posts of: Like and Share if you support Police Officers killing Blacks for no reason, it is just one molecule in an ocean.
When you have a fire, you don’t add gasoline… Arresting the Koch Brothers, the NRA leadership, and Fox News would do a lot to remove gasoline which we all know, shouldn’t even be near a fire to begin with…
As anyone who has dealt with terrorism knows, if you build a hospital to display goodwill and the terrorists come in and kill everyone there, no one goes to that hospital anymore… no matter how sick. You have to take-out those who call for violence and arresting the Koch’s, NRA leadership, and silencing Fox News, would take 98% of those promoting this insanity, off the streets and out of the public eye in 24 hours.
We need to focus on the REAL problem, not the symptoms.
Donald Trump just accused Ted Cruz’s dad of being with Oswald before the killing of JFK.
The press in up in arms over how to treat this.
Trump has once again said something wacky that the media can’t refute with total certainty (this is an ongoing problem). The Cruz campaign has said the man in question is not the candidate’s father, but there is no easy way to prove a negative. So the media are left to point out the lack of credible evidence supplied by Trump and the Enquirer without actually asserting that the report is fiction.
It’s a dance that has been repeated many times over, but perhaps never has it been so difficult.
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So, let me teach the press how this get handled.
You put a picture of Donald Trump on your front page with the headline
LIAR
Then you tell his accusation.
That is all.
If he wants to counter the name-tag you just gave him (and as a political animal he will), he has to prove it.
If he can, you issue a correction. If he can’t, he’s done.
End of lesson.
This is a reoccurring nightmare. There is a club of senior scientists who regularly meet in Delaware, often at the second official governor’s residence and share ideas about how to rule the world in the future. Though acknowledgeably some neurons have dimmed, the collective age of scientific knowledge sitting around that table, covers two millennium.
There are many disagreements based on personal perspective. However, there is one unifying theme on which all members agree, whether liberal, conservative, or libertarian.
That is that mass-hysteria trumps science in today’s world… Facts don’t matter. Knowledge is immaterial… Propaganda rules and against that, facts are simply shut out…
It used to be when facing a crises the leadership would call in the experts and ask what the best solution would be, and what fallout to expect. The experts dutifully told them.
Today that has been substituted by marketing… One calls the pollsters. Which idea do people think will work? How will the fallout affect this group of people; how will it affect the others?
Politics is certainly important, especially when you are the first black president and 47% of the nation is out to get you because of the color of your skin…
But the people who have no idea of the facts, and are given this enormous power to decide policy, will lead us to some really bad decisions… That is the trouble with our world today.
Dumb media spokespeople, fire up a dumb electorate, who then elect dumb officials, to enact dumb policy… That is how Europe found itself embroiled in WWI. Mostly because a bored population wanted war, and war is what they got….
Europeans changed their mind, of course after several months… War wasn’t pretty or glamorous at all. Things never are when you fail to listen to experts…. those people who know facts and face those fact’s reality every day… who know every in and out… Compare that to an “opinionator” who calls himself an expert because he watched one slanted newscast on TV.
So today we have people who won’t vaccinate their kids; and want all airlines and all hospitals to shut down to prevent Ebola. Today we have people who smoke 3 packs a day, and think Obamacare for others should be abolished because medical care should only be for those who can pay dearly for it. Today we have a Congress that won’t extend wind credits, meanwhile the sea levels are rising, wildfires are raging, and reservoirs are drying up. Today we have truly a deadly flu, largely ignored because it cannot be blamed on the Black president since it didn’t originate in… darkest Africa… Today we have people who want to send children back to their death in Central America, yet not allow safe abortions here in the US because of the of chance it could kill human cells. Today we have the core of human knowledge, accumulated over millenniums, thrown out for one certified nut’s personal creation, called “Common Core”.
It is all just stupid…
There have always been really stupid people… But they have never been the ones running things. Today they are… and not to sound partisan or anything, but they are all extremely conservative. The middle-of-the-roaders, often called RINO’s, or Liberals, or Socialists, or Communists, or Pinko’s by these uneducated louts, are as sane as they ever were.
They are shut out. To get on national TV, one has to first meet the high standard set, and be a kook…
Wayne LaPierre; Sean Hannity; Rush Limbaugh; Ted Cruz; Sarah Palin; Rick Scott; Scott Walker; Paul Ryan; Rand Paul; John McCain; Lindsey Graham; Jeff Christopher; St. Louis police force spokespeople.. just to name a few.
All are given ample time and platforms to discuss any topic whose intimate details are such that they have no clue…
So where are the experts? Where are the scientists? Where are the academics? They used to be there. Anyone over 50 who remembers watching the nightly news before think-tanks were invented, can remember when experts regularly appeared on news shows to discuss their expertise…
Why is our media dominated by dummies? Why do people who once had clout, now echo the dummies instead of ridiculing them?
I think it is because they believe Americans don’t care about substance anymore but just want entertainment. Ebola comes from Africa, and so did Obama… The media has to make that connection and the first one to do so, can charge higher rates to its advertisers……
After 6 years… it is still all about putting a black president in his place… The answer that changes things: is to vote. You must vote this November to have this president’s back. After all, he listens to experts and not dummies… We definitely need more of that…..
All know I’m a fan of free speech. Yet I’m first to use my free speech rights to point out those who call “fire” in a crowded theater, obviously hoping for some real life theatrics…
We all know it is illegal to call “Fire” when there is none in a crowded theater…. So in the battle between free speech and calling “Fire” in a crowded theater, where does Fox News fit in….
Because that is all they do….
In politics (as I know kooks on both sides), crazies play a valuable role… For one, they are ever watchful of the other side. Rarely will anything get past either one side or the other… And we, the citizens who wake up, drive the nation’s economic engine, come home eat, and sleep, don’t have to worry over every little thing…
Fox has seriously helped the right. They have given the right a platform which it didn’t have. After all, facts always have a leftest bias. Though that sounds political to neophytes, it tends to be true…..
Is tobacco healthy? No.
Do women enjoy rape? No.
Does a woman’s biology destroy all incoming sperm when raped, thereby preventing pregnancy? No
Are blacks more stupid than whites? No.
Was the world created in 6, 24 hour days? No.
Is man made global warming made up? No…
Facts have a liberal bias, which is why, to ingratiate themselves with a conservative public, the producers at Fox News have to distort all facts to keep up their charade… Now there is no rule on requiring every American to tell everything factually and honestly. If that premise were so, for one, there would be no divorce courts… Likewise, literature which is the art of embellishment where points are assessed for cleverness on how well certain planks are told, could not exist.
So it is hard to say that Fox News should be held to any different standard than say, I for example… But there is that pesky adage saying that one cannot cry “Fire” in a crowded theater, causing dangerous panic when there is no threat…..
And that is where I’m beginning to think Fox News has crossed that line…
Two things triggered this… and trust me, when it comes to possibly misinterpreting the Constitution I’m very slow to be triggered…
And another was this….
The American precedent for the first video featuring the protester’s action, was set by the residents in Boston, I believe resulting in 5 deaths, including one black man. Without which, we may literally have not become a nation, understanding the way that event rippled its way into our Revolutionary War …. It is both rebellion, and yet is protected under the first amendment.
The precedent for the sentiment expressed in the second item, came from George Washington himself. who as president, called the army together from various militias near DC, appointed himself as its head, and led them on his white horse up into western Pennsylvania, where a similar hick army, copied almost exactly like the TEA PARTY today, was engaged in protesting Congress’s levies on their whiskey pretty similar to those dummies protesting the $1 million owed by the Bundy farm….
The question is really this… Which type of America do the majority of the rest of us want? One run by kooks to whom the government has to kowtow, and acquiesce in its every response,… or one run by regular people appreciative of law and order and appeals and all that stuff that makes America run…
Well. Which of these two do you want? After all, you ARE America.
Fox News cheer leads the first. Nowhere does it mention that these are homeless kids on a bus, kids whose parents paid smugglers (the kids don’t have money), kids who had no choice (mom, I don’t want to go), no independence, kids caught up in a massive political and international crises way beyond their understanding….
I hail the second. It is sickening to see Americans so callous over any children’s plight, that they think is it cool to block and intimidate little kids from being reprocessed and sent home… to revel in their prejudice, look we’re da’ boss, look how tough we are, we can stop a bus of little kids; and shout… USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA, USA……
Personally I’m embarrassed. Just like when I shit and see this big long black thing curled up in the toilet. Shudder. Shudder. Yes, I know it is part of life’s process, .. doesn’t mean I’m proud of it….
But for people to actually hold such their excrement in their hands, up high, proud of it? Shouting USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA…. can only come because someone is encouraging it… I’ve been around people for years.. KKK meetings in the 50’s were like that… But they were people encouraged by Grand Dragon. They were nice people outside the meetings… Likewise the pre-teen German kids at the Nuremberg rallies… they grew up as nice kids, but someone exploited and encouraged them…
Do you know why those children were on the bus? Not the immediate reason, but the overall big reason? They were there for the exact same reason relatives of mine died… because of what the USA represents… They were sent here, because outside our borders, the USA represents opportunity. It represents freedom. It represents right over wrong. It represents good people governing themselves for what is best for them….
Good people sometimes will do bad things if pushed hard enough… The photographer was good. Watching the video I sensed a sincerity in those people waving signs who really thought they were doing America a favor by stopping homeless little children from entering their town…. Who does that? I can only believe the real culprit is not them, but should instead, be that person lying to them. cajoling them, egging them on, rewarding their bad behavior, pushing them foreward… Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it…
We are being judged around the world by this disgusting video… Little kids… barred by a rebellion of fat slobs in American flag shirts yelling: USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA,……
I only ask two things… One is to the world judging us… “Look” I say to them… “We don’t judge you by your shit, if we happen to come across it, say if you forgot to flush”…. “Don’t judge us for ours”….
And two, is: America, we’ve got to do something about Fox News… They are protected under the 1st Amendment (and should be) so even I think it is wrong for our government to interfere with what they say…We cannot start that precedent. But there are 315 million of us, and there is nothing wrong with us taking this fight into our own hands, outside of government…. We can bankrupt them. We have that power….
This is a human thing, not partisan. Certainly not democratic. This is disgust at how low Fox News has brought America by willfully withholding proper facts, and subsequently creating huge crises out of nothing…..
“Americans Unite! That Crazy Black President Is Now Busing “Criminals” INTO YOUR BEDROOM COMMUNITIES! FIGHT THEM. FIGHT THEM NOW!…. ” is pretty similar to yelling “Fire” in a crowded theater… Criminals? Because their parents put them on a bus? Deportation centers? Same as your bed room? Crazy Black President? Yeah, that one who’s doing His job while no Republican is doing theirs?
I think there is enough evidence to say they are doing more than stirring the pot…. There is more volatility now than in the 00’s. the 90’s, the 80’s… Flush Rush, has led the way teaching us exactly how to do it… Fox News doesn’t need to suffer total catastrophic damage to force change. In the corporate environment, just a tiny loss of 1% can cause executives to face life changing decisions caused by their stockholders… There are 315 million of us… We can do 1%….
I know somebody out there reading this watches the Fox Morning Show… All they need to do is write down or lift video of who advertised and then post it daily… Monday through Friday…
These are the FOX blacklisted advertisers today…. It would be helpful if a contact twitter address was added… Then we all tweet the corporate site of the product paying to be on Fox.
“Oh, my, goodness, Boycott this product: ________ It paid to be on Fox’s morning show!!!….”
Now one or two messages won’t do it… but a 1000 will get a twitter monitor’s attention. “Hey boss, check this out”… But it can’t stop there, we all need to be involved. Remember, there are 315 million of us… Help us If we are ever going to get our America back, we have to get past that point where we all think we have to shout at each other and then pound our chests and go USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA,….
There are ways of talking civilly. But they won’t happen when someone is in the middle lying to one side about the other… If we truly want a better America, that middle man is the real enemy. It never was the ones who got stirred up to cause trouble… But that one who is doing the stirring, should be taken out first…..
Let’s get this started. It can only work as a “We, The People’s” project. It can only work by hitting them in the pocket book… Who advertised on them today…? Just report it.
Americans don’t need a new KKK… Do what you can; get rid of Fox today……
It is a movement neither Democratic nor Republican. It is about turning our nation’s values back, towards being the type of nation to which all these immigrants want to come in the first place… Because we are one fuckin’ hell of a great people….
If this doesn’t make you turn off Fox News permanently, which is paying Allan West to comment, then you are sick, demented and you are truly an embarrassment to the United States of America….
Allan West: current Fox commentator: former Tea Party Congressman: brutally tortured, prodded, beat and simulated the execution of an Iraqi police officer. Iraqi police officer! They were supposed to be our allies! We were paying their salaries! He was declared guilty as charged when all evidence was decided. In other words, his behavior was deemed criminal in view of a military court of justice beholden to the rules set up by the Department of Defense of the United States of America. He is the equivalent of Milosevic. In a democratic administration, he would have been shot, quickly buried in the sand somewhere. But, unfortunately for America, Cheney was running the war.
Tammy Duckworth: Duckworth served as a U.S. Army helicopter pilot and suffered severe combat wounds, losing both of her legs and damaging her right arm. She was the first female double amputee from the war. She continues to serve as a Lieutenant Colonel in the Illinois Army National Guard along with her husband, Major Bryan W. Bowlsbey, a signal officer and fellow Iraq War veteran….
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But what happened…. was that the above Allan West questioned the patriotic loyalties of the above Tammy Duckworth….
If you ever watch Fox News after this, you DESERVE the hell you wrought to this country. We are better than this. We need to stop rewarding Fox for bad behavior, and we need to punish those exec’s foisting this bad behavior upon us….. Time to renew the boycott of every single business advertising upon the shows upon which he comments. It is truly un-American NOT to do so! After all, we go all out at no limit of expense to celebrate Memorial Day. And against that, we have someone, being paid to trash veterans for entertainment? Veterans still serving in the National Guard, despite losing both legs? (It’s an entertainment network, not real news, you know….) And YOU… you accept this? As normal? As right? As ok?
Here is your guide on how to navigate through their phone labyrinth.
This is brief.
One can make all types of distinctions to explain things in simplier ways. The best way to understand politics is to acknowledge that the two groups fighting each other over everything, are you, all of you, the people, and the interests of money, supported by all those who are supported by big investments…
So at every junction of domestic politics, we have to consider how a plan or action affects a) those who are people, and how it affects those who are business.
Business versus the People. Obamacare, Taxes, and Israel.
Now take Obamacare.
Obamacare is good for the people. Not so good for those making money. But if you are a average person, it is kind of hard for you to get to a microphone now isn’t it? It is relatively easy for a business type to garner one. That helps explains how all the talk is over how bad Obamacare is. Because, face it, it is bad for those charging too much for you to get sick. But if you are the ones on the buying end, it is good for you if you get sick.
Likewise higher tax rates are good for the majority of people. They create jobs, they cause money to flood into the economy in their dodge from the tax man. They cause ones wages to rise, and cause purchasing to increase… They cause building and construction trades to boom. Unfortunately they somewhat cost the financial world in commissions. People have to put their money into factories now instead of commissions arising from the buying and selling of financial packages… But it is hard to get a microphone to express your view of a grateful public. It is easy for an advertiser to demand air time for his cause, after all, “he paid for this microphone.”
Israel. One must realize that Israel’s existence creates an world’s most expensive arms market involving Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, That is huge money for America’s defense industry as well as those of other nations. However having peace and cooperation in the Holy Land would be far better for the American people. Just think: no terrorism. Telling Israel to stand down, would benefit all of the American people; doing so would cut into the profits of those arm’s dealers who readily exploit the fear of both sides to get supply contracts signed. No fear; no contracts.
This explains the great disconnect from how you feel, and how America actually is… That gigantic gulf between the two is due to the fact that our media, you don’t matter as long as they can tell advertisers that you are watching. No one cares what’s best for the people. They matter now, only money matters…
So do something. Don’t vote for anyone, Democrat, Republican, or Independent who puts the interest of (compounded) interest, over his interest in you… And stop watching any MSNBC, FOX, ABC, NBC, PBS, OR CBS NEWS…. There is a much better source of news and you can do other things, like drive, while you are listening…..
Courtesy of lolsnaps.com
When attacking an enemy it is best to hit them at their most vulnerable part….
With North Korea, that would be to sever the support their leader and the military gets from it’s people. The entire extravaganza is being perpetuated for domestic consumption.. There are some serious cracks appearing in the North’s support for the “kid”. And why wouldn’t there be? What legitimacy does he bring as the head of state?
In the past year, things have gotten worse for the citizens of North Korea. This saber rattling is the “kid’s” last chance to lead… Rumors abound of multiple future plots being devised against him….
It is in the US and the rest of the world’s best interest to make this dissolution happen. Someone less irrational, smarter, and a lot more stable would make everything in that region settled and stable.
Aggressive Military action has the opposite effect. When the state is threatened people flock to the leader. Just look how democrats flocked to George W. Bush. Engaging the “kid” in military fashion will solidify the people behind him….
Our goal is to have the people solidify behind someone else. At the same time, keep our military prowess at top proficiency to prevent others from taking us on simply thinking we are weak….
Here is how.
If provoked, we take out North Korea’s air defenses. Then we airdrop food by having it parachuted into starving neighborhoods with the words, from your friends the United States of America….
We do and the point gets made.;. Gee North Korea, if you’d just take care of the “kid”, your lives will quickly get a lot better.
The only recourse the kid would have, would be… see I made them drop food for you….
North Korean’s aren’t dumb. Just knowing that the world is pulling for them to rid the “kid” might be enough to make one of those current rumors swirling around the impoverished countryside, turn into reality…..
Yes. Dick Morris is gone and there are no other Richards who prognosticate before a camera….
However there is a rumor that Fox is hiring Scott Brown, who was defeated by Elizabeth Warren for the Massachusetts Senate seat. Scott Brown was in the news because he just two days ago turned down the option which he was polled heavily to win, the Senate seat vacated by John Kerry.
So Fox fired Dick Morris, Karl Rove, and all the “old school” Republicans and is searching and hiring “liberal” republicans instead.
Thing is, if the media erases the Conservative from Conservatism, then liberal conservatives could just well win. Scott did win in a liberal state like Massachusetts.
It appears that is what the big money is trying to do. Make Conservatives look gentile, nice, respectable, funny, and full of love for their fellow man.
It just might work. George W. Bush used that tactic after the most successful Black president we’ve ever had, up until now.
Today in order to capitalize upon the fact that the fourth quarter economy sank (even though it was because of the downward pressure due to the threat of sequestration forced upon Congress by the Tea Party), they wheeled out Arthur Laughter Laffer to make a dire predictions….
He is on their short list of who-to-call-when-we(FOX News)-NEED-a-dire-prediction…..
Because….. He is well known for making “dire predictions”..
“Economist Arthur Laffer told his clients on July 26, 1982, that (Ronald Reagan’s) Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act, which raised taxes by about one percent of GDP, “will stifle economic recovery,” “retard economic growth,” and undercut “the economy’s ability to enter into a period of expansion.” On August 20, 1982, he told his clients that TEFRA, Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act, “will tend to lengthen and deepen the recession.”
Instead, ….. No one could have been more wrong…
On August 20, 1993, Laffer told his clients, “Clinton’s tax bill will do about as much damage to the U.S. economy as could feasibly be done in the current political environment.” He said that interest rates would rise and the stock market would fall.
Once again, it would be hard to find a forecast that was more completely wrong….
And now! Today,… well, there he goes again….
“You have the whole output of the economy shrinking. Not just expanding more slowly, it`s absolutely shrinking,” (lol, see by how little, below)… Laffer told Fox News’ Eric Bolling…
“That’s catastrophic,” the former adviser to President Ronald Reagan added. (Did anyone else catch the stupendous irony of that? Oh, Wow. You can’t make stuff like that up).
“You can explain some of that by sequestration, and defense spending was down lot and all that. But you still have a rotten economy. And it’s still too bad. We know how to fix it, by the way, a low rate flat tax, spending restraint, sound money, free trade.” (See George Bush’s Economic Record.) Laffer was responding to reports Wednesday that the U.S. economy contracted 0.1 percent in the last quarter of 2012…
Yes. Laffer was responding to reports Wednesday that the U.S. economy contracted 0.1 percent in the last quarter of 2012. Quote: “You have the whole output of the economy shrinking. Not just expanding more slowly, it`s absolutely shrinking,”
Recalling his years as one of Reagan’s top economic advisers, Laffer said Reagan actually cut the highest tax rates (From 70%-50%; they are 35% now) He said “we made a mistake” by phasing in the cuts, which he said caused the 1981-82 recession. But he said the economy took off in 1983* when the cuts (and 1%GDP tax increase) went into full effect. *
“This place just went like a rocket ship,” he said. “I think we had 7.5 percent growth in 1983 and 5.5 growth in 1984, just this boom that lasted for years and years.”* (*lol)
(Conversational excerpts provided by Newsmax)
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