Bill Clinton led his send-off speech at the Dem 2000 convention for Al Gore, with the fact that under the second term of his administration, blacks saw a higher growth of income than whites…..
During the Bush Years, they gave it all back………
Therefore to the average Afro American, this election is extremely important, from purely an economic reason…..African Americans fared well under the first Clinton. They put their faith, if not their fervor into Al Gore, and look where we are today….Bottom line, they feel they need to back someone who will win with white voters….
Of course they are proud of Obama. Even more, they are proud of his high poll standings and his ability to earn money…….equal almost to that of Hillary Clinton herself…..
But when it comes to keeping track of how many promising Black candidates actually win…..their memories are better at keeping score than most whites…..Likewise they are sharper because of their struggles, on who is capable and not capable of delivering upon their campaign promises……
Bill did…and that leads a lot of credence that his wife will do the same…..Her experience is slightly more prodigious than her husband’s. She seems to have the Rights’ nod to the presidency, implying at best the Republicans will try to mount a Dole sized Campaign to keep from acquiescing entirely.
Obama on the other hand, was a state senator, and then a freshman Senator, until he started taking time off to campaign…How will he be able to effectively work Capitol Hill better than Hillary, when what is necessary will be the reversal of all things Bush, and a return to the tax policy, environmental policy, social policy that proved to raise ALL RACES AND ECONOMIC STRATAS at the same time……something no one else has ever been able to do.
They do not need another candidate to stumble out of the gate. Therefore though they like Obama, as for right now, the money is on Hillary……
But that could change after Iowa…where currently Obama is in the lead…..If Obama can show the curse is lifted and in a state where there are very few African Americans to be found…that a black can beat the wife of the most popular president ever,……those allegiances can shift…..But Obama must win in Iowa, sort of the same way Kennedy had to win in West Virginia, (proving once and for all back in 1960 that a Catholic did have a shot at the presidency.Boy have we come a long way…..)
Black voters, argues Jim Clyburn, House Majority Whip, are aware that they make up a minority of the population in the United States and that to win the White House in 2008 the Democratic candidate must be able to demonstrate considerable appeal among white voters
if Iowa goes Obama, then Blacks may see him as capable of making it all the way. If that vision becomes reality, then their support will switch to that candidate who can win the White House in 2008……even if he is black…….
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November 30, 2007 at 8:19 pm
David Anderson
What is also interesting is the fact that black women support Sen. Clinton while black men tend to Sen. Obama.
December 4, 2007 at 9:29 am
kavips
Actually, that makes sense, now that I think about it.
It really makes sense. From what little I know from the mysterious side of human behavior, the bond between women would naturally be stronger.
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January 24, 2008 at 7:02 am
wordtodawise
Barack Obama, an equal opportunity candidate.
It’s obvious that Obama is not white enough and certainly not black enough. He presents himself however as an equal opportunity candidate and the beacon of hope for a united America.
There’s a piece of him for the white color conscious voter and a piece of him for the black color conscious voter. Then there’s the whole of him for the color blind rational voter. It would be nice if race was not a factor, but let’s not kid ourselves; race is alive and well and the Clintons are exploiting it.
For the first time, African-Americans are presented with a candidate who shares their heritage and who also has a legitimate chance to be nominated and eventually elected president of the United States.
Obama is specially gifted and when contrasted head to head with Hillary, he is far superior both in judgment, character, temperament and intellectual prowess. He also has sufficient relevant experience and vision to make good decisions where Hillary has been opportunistic and has failed on critical issues of national significance.
It appears that Blacks are split and indecisive about their choice between Obama and Hillary. The tag teams of Bill and Hillary Clinton have mounted a serious negative campaign to diminish the stature of Obama. They have introduced the race and gender cards in an effort to bait and destroy him. They seem to be succeeding.
Blacks should not allow themselves to be manipulated by the Clintons. They should free themselves from mental slavery and exercise wisdom by giving Obama victory. They should reject any so called Black leaders who may try to persuade them from doing the right thing.
By voting for Obama, Blacks can help the nation by defeating the Clinton machine who if allowed back in the white house will engage this country in an endless internal strife. It’s time for a positive change and Blacks can make a significant difference.
January 24, 2008 at 9:07 am
kavips
Valid points but it caused me think ahead to the next rung of the ladder.
What will most affect Obama is the allegation that he votes “present” instead to taking a “yea or nay” stance on a vote.
Why would someone do such a thing?
Obviously because they were thinking longterm and foresaw a future scenario where they would be seriously handicapped by taking a stand on the issue currently in the present time.
This is a little two weird, especially for someone elected to Congress. It too can be explained, and if you have lots of faith in the candidate it sort of makes sense, but nevertheless departs from the usual reason as to why we elect representatives to Congress in the first place.
I tell you this because it swayed me. “Oh” was my immediate reaction.
It is something that needs addressed by the Obama camp immediately if they seriously wish to go forward. Especially for the reason that “most” of his popularity that comes from white liberals, arises from his stance on the war….which we take him at his word, since we was not there to vote on it…………
February 2, 2008 at 1:33 pm
wordtodawise
Kavips, you have to see through the distortion of truth by the Clinton campaign when they try to deflect attention from Hillary’s lack of judgement. Voting for the war is a serious monkey on Hillary’s back and it deeply troubles their campain.
That story about Obama’s voting style was planted just to confuse the politically challenged people. It’s nothing more than a red herring.
You see, “present” is the voting option illinois state senators can exercise when it’s necessary to bargain in order to win support for the legislation of prime interest. That’s just smart politics and Obama knows his business.
The war is a severe drain on America and all those who voted for it can’t be trusted with the power of the presidency. George Bush didn’t walk alone. Hillary failed when it counted the most. Always remember that.
February 2, 2008 at 3:03 pm
kavips
Thanks to your prodding I looked up this. It adequately explains the “Illinois method of voting”
But to the Illinois outsider, as I am sure Clinton and Edwards are, it does look like one casting “present” is having difficulty in taking a stand.
But in your candidates defense, were someone to bring that point up, all one needs as an answer, is “He was the only one of the candidates left, who hasn’t changed his mind against the war.”
That should alleviate any fears that he cannot make difficult, hard decisions.
February 11, 2008 at 11:25 am
wordtodawise
Kavips, you’ve got class. Here’s a situation where you could have been misled by the Clinton disinformation campaign, but you sought out and found the truth.
It’s clear now that your initial comment was genuine. I’m relieved that truth finally prevailed. I salute you sincerely.
Wordtodawise
March 21, 2008 at 8:12 am
michele
It would make sense that women would vote for a woman. Women are discriminated against more for being a woman, than for being any type of race. Some people are so sexist.