At times they are, more so now than in recent memory. But, they were not always… There are fond memories from some of the more senior actors on the political stages across this country, of when elections were viewed as mere sporting events… similar to that of Dallas versus Philadelphia… Some sparing, baiting, teasing when on, but after the vote, life went on.. just the same as it does after game day.
The decisiveness began to occur during the eighties. Which simultaneously, coincides with the advent of Fox News… We all know how a mother in law can pick apart a marriage. Suppose a news network used the same approach? First shining a light on one little thing that pissed the other partner off, then, returning the favor, shining a light on something the other did, pissing the first one off too… Pretty soon both sides are expressing anger at each other; so mad they are, it never occurs to them to be mad at the person creating a fiasco where none existed before… the mother in law…..
What if our anger, was just us getting played? I imagine one could do that with a team rivalry. “Cowboy players all said they wished when they played Philadelphia, they could play in another city. Philadelphia stinks…” Then two days later. Philadelphia’s quarterback said the ugliest hooker in Philly, was better looking than the Dallas Cheerleaders.” The following week, Dallas fans beat up Philadelphian shopping in the Galleria.” Two days later, “Woman gang raped outside King of Prussia Mall for wearing Cowboys Jersey.” So what if none of the stories were true… Actually no one was even concerned to check out their veracity. (it was false) but that didn’t stop the animosity from building… Next seasons event: for some reason, had more fights then ever recorded at any NFL game. The second game of the season, was played without any fans in the stands…. Tickets were refunded.
Of course this is fictitious. And believable..
So what if we hate each other for no reason? Just that we were told there was a reason and so hate we do?
There is proof that we don’t hate for a reason.
One, history. We always got along well before.
Two, American Tradition. We pride ourselves with polite civility
Three, both Tea Party and Occupiers, have big money corruption as part of their policy planks.
Four, both Tea Party and Occupiers within the course of two years, have protested the status quo.
Five, both Tea Partiers and Occupiers have a common enemy. Big Money.
Six, both Occupiers and Tea Partiers, are upset Middle Class is doing poorly…
Just like the broken couple, both point fingers at the other side, and develop a deep hatred for the other.
But, is it too late?
Can a couple disown their mother in law, send her packing to a nursing home, and get along well enough again to provide their children with a better future? Well, it gets done all the time….
Humans can forgive and forget. Americans as a people, are far better at that than most any other country… Certainly better than France (lol)…
Imagine if David Anderson, Jason Scott, Dana Garrett, Dave Burris, Liberalgeek, Hube, Pandora, Frank Knotts, Unstable Isotope, Fay Voshell, as well as a cast of thousands, got so fed up, they withdrew their accounts from a big bank and put it into a local one. What if they refused to use a credit card, tore them up, and all paid everything with cash? What if they stopped buying anything made in China, or sold by a multinational corporation? What if they all wrote about why and what they were doing, and all those who read followed? It certainly would change Delaware. What if all states did the same…Those mad on the right, and those mad on the left, pursued the same course of action, until the complete absence of secret monetary influences, became standard policy in elections….?
What if both sides, supported a constitutional amendment that explicitly overturned Citizens United, and forbid, slush funds, large corporate donations, and only allowed individual donors to contribute small amounts?
Would we then find common ground? Would we, without the divisiveness being forced upon us, have the normalcy to actually listen to the other side for a change, and craft compromises in the fashion they used to be crafted, back when things were golden?
Tell me, could you not work with the other side to achieve this goal? We have a common complaint. That complaint is that our government, who depends upon our votes to achieve their office, is not listening to us…. Both sides voice that.
Perhaps we take care of the corporate mother in law first, then work together again and fix this country… It’s not that hard to fix, we already have a plan.……

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December 22, 2011 at 11:21 am
Duffy
The decisiveness began to occur during the eighties.
Was that supposed to be divisiveness? I thought you were old enough to remember the ’60′s but if not, do some reading. If you want go go back a bit further we even had war in the 1800′s about divisiveness.
Which simultaneously, coincides with the advent of Fox News… We all know how a mother in law can pick apart a marriage. Suppose a news network used the same approach? First shining a light on one little thing that pissed the other partner off, then, returning the favor, shining a light on something the other did, pissing the first one off too… Pretty soon both sides are expressing anger at each other; so mad they are, it never occurs to them to be mad at the person creating a fiasco where none existed before… the mother in law…..
Your side lost outright control over the media and you’re complaining. Boo hoo. The monolithic Big Three didn’t have a monopoly on the truth. They were just a ogligarchy with an agenda you agreed with. Fox news is not your Mother in Law. Fox news is the guy who went through rehab is not content to let the alcoholic (the government) go on another bender at Thanksgiving for the sake of keeping the peace.
What if our anger, was just us getting played?
It is. You’ve been sold a bill of goods on Keynesian ecnomic theory, global
warmingclimate change, Wall Street malfeasance, unions and the lot.So what if we hate each other for no reason? Just that we were told there was a reason and so hate we do?
You tell me. You’re the one who’s advocating violence against me because I don’t agree with your politics.
One, history. We always got along well before.
Again I’ll point you to the 1860′s and the 1960′s as evidence to the contrary. For a more contemporary example please see your own call to violence post.
Two, American Tradition. We pride ourselves with polite civility
Have you no sense of hypocrisy?
Five, both Tea Partiers and Occupiers have a common enemy. Big Money.
Actually the Tea Party sees Big Government as the problem. OWS sees Big Government as the solution
Six, both Occupiers and Tea Partiers, are upset Middle Class is doing poorly…
OWS is only concerned with themselves and perhaps “the workers” in the abstract. Apparently people who do stuff with computers are not “workers”.
Just like the broken couple, both point fingers at the other side, and develop a deep hatred for the other.
Speak for yourself. I don’t hate leftists. I just think they’re wrong. Leftists are the ones boiling over with hate.
Imagine if David Anderson… as well as a cast of thousands, got so fed up, they withdrew their accounts from a big bank and put it into a local one.
That’d be fine but now your local bank is on its way to becoming the next Bank of America.
What if they refused to use a credit card, tore them up, and all paid everything with cash?
That would be smart.
What if they stopped buying anything made in China
Good luck with that.
or sold by a multinational corporation?
How would you buy food? Cars? Clothing? Power and water? Carpet? Paint?
What if both sides, supported a constitutional amendment that explicitly overturned Citizens United, and forbid, slush funds, large corporate donations, and only allowed individual donors to contribute small amounts?
Amendments must be part of a constitutional convention. You open that door and there’s no telling what will happen. Plus you seem to think that making something illegal guarantees it won’t happen. Feh. Where were you when Obama removed any restrictions on his websites that prevented foreign donors from giving money?
Would we then find common ground?
No. Democrats are the party of class war and dividing people into little boxes that can be quantified. Republicans are the the other side of class warfare and want to lump people together by class if not race and gender.
Would we, without the divisiveness being forced upon us, have the normalcy to actually listen to the other side for a change, and craft compromises in the fashion they used to be crafted, back when things were golden?
Nobody wants to listen. Least of all the left. They’re too busy preening about their moral superiority and weighing each opponent as either evil or stupid. This mythical golden age you’re referring to is gone. The world has changed. We can’t go back only forward. If we continue looking backward we’ll never get anywhere. Globalization has advanced dramatically in the last 20 years changing everything about finance, markets, competition, etc. Get used to it. IT’s not going anywhere.
Tell me, could you not work with the other side to achieve this goal? We have a common complaint. That complaint is that our government, who depends upon our votes to achieve their office, is not listening to us…. Both sides voice that.
For once you’re correct. There is a permenant political class in this country which is perilous to our freedom. Two terms for everyone and a 12 year limit for all bench appointments.
December 24, 2011 at 1:37 am
kavips
Two terms for everyone and a 12 year limit for all bench appointments?
Unless, of course, they agree with me, and then, they should be entitled to unlimited terms until they die…
December 24, 2011 at 1:56 am
kavips
The decisiveness that was rampant in the 60′s across America’s college campuses was not found inside the two chambers of Congress. Those elected officials worked together far better than todays bi-polar Congresspeople.
If my side is “truth” (and there is a lot of argument pointing to that direction), then to say “truth” lost out when Fox came on board, is quite appropriate.. I’m proud of you for that; I’d never have made that connection without your help.. Fox is a propagandist, not news gathering organization. Goebbels was a propagandist, not a news gathering organization. Voice of America was a propagandist, not a news gathering organization. Radio Moscow was a propagandist, not a news gathering organization. …
And the big three didn’t need a monopoly on truth. They reported it. Truth belongs to no one… It is there. At one point, it was reported.
No Fox is the divisive mother in law… How can you trust any news service who will hack into a missing dead girls phone to achieve higher ratings?
I would have no issue if they were truthful,…… Here is how truth gets reported…
Today the government rolled back safe levels of mercury, arsenic, and uranium to levels existing in the 1950′s, Doing this will make more money for any corporation using these products, by not forcing them to spend money on keeping these toxins out of our water supply. Now any business can dump it’s waste right into any stream, without breaking the law. This will help swell profit margins of those companies and will make more money for those owning parts of those companies. They will also reduce the population of people living downriver from those steams…..
Damn, that is good reporting.
December 27, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Duffy
Unless, of course, they agree with me, and then, they should be entitled to unlimited terms until they die…
There’s the authoritarian streak again.
The decisiveness that was rampant in the 60′s across America’s college campuses was not found inside the two chambers of Congress. Those elected officials worked together far better than todays bi-polar Congresspeople.
Per usual you offer no proof of your statement. The country was practically tearing itself apart over the war in Vietnam, segregation/civil rights, two Kennedys killed etc. To argue that there was unity in the country because some politicians were acting with comity beggars belief.
If my side is “truth” (and there is a lot of argument pointing to that direction),
Nonsense on stilts. You cannot even figure out that taxes are a cost of doing business. Nor can you figure out that government spending is either by borrowing, printing or taking money out of the economy to do so. You rely on hazy feel good memories of Clinton’s presidency without any idea that the world has changed since then.
then to say “truth” lost out when Fox came on board, is quite appropriate.. I’m proud of you for that;
Now you’re putting words in my mouth. Truth won out when Fox cam along. We need competition in the news business not sycophantic toadying to one party or the other.
Fox is a propagandist, not news gathering organization.
Cite one example where a news story was propaganda not news. Do not cite Hannity or O’Reilly etc. as they are commentary not news.
Goebbels was a propagandist
Godwin’s Law violation. I accept your surrender.
No Fox is the divisive mother in law… How can you trust any news service who will hack into a missing dead girls phone to achieve higher ratings?
Should I cite the countless examples of lying by your MSM friends? Do you not remember 60 Minutes making stuff up?
I would have no issue if they were truthful,…… Here is how truth gets reported…
Today the government rolled back safe levels of mercury, arsenic, and uranium to levels existing in the 1950′s, Doing this will make more money for any corporation using these products, by not forcing them to spend money on keeping these toxins out of our water supply. Now any business can dump it’s waste right into any stream, without breaking the law. This will help swell profit margins of those companies and will make more money for those owning parts of those companies. They will also reduce the population of people living downriver from those steams…..
Damn, that is good reporting.
No, it isn’t. It’s alarmist and filled with leaps of logic that would earn you a failing grade by any logic professor or J-school of any merit.
Funny that you cite mercury as a problem. Your Supreme Awesomeness Barack Obama’s regime is the one forcing me to bring mercury into my house in the form of lightbulbs. Lord knows that lightbulbs NEVER break. Heavens no! He is literally forcing me to endanger my children and you don’t care.
December 28, 2011 at 1:23 am
kavips
Btw, that wasn’t an authoritarian streak you witnessed… it was humor.
Proof? Sorry didn’t know it was needed, Any one of these will do (or ask anyone who worked in Congress back then… they will corroborate)….
http://books.google.com/books?id=cdJNga4a2u0C&pg=PA214&lpg=PA214&dq=jr+fulbright+senator+memoirs&source=bl&ots=5rWhY4PpmN&sig=2GL88ll_kywUuqb1qD9ZNMM3i6Y&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JKz6TpqVFuLc0QHz5b2EAg&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=jr%20fulbright%20senator%20memoirs&f=false
http://www.sais-jhu.edu/pressroom/publications/sais-reports/2003_Nov-Dec/Mansfield.html
Hoffecker, Carol E. (2000). Honest John Williams. Newark, Delaware: University of Delaware Press.
Although it is rather silly to ask for references for something as commonly known by all good people, as whether or not the sun shown yesterday…. But read all those and you will then understand just how bad the Republican party is…..
Seriously, I’m shaking my head, like how can any educated person not know this? Where did you hide your head all your life?
Again, taxes are not a cost of doing business… Again, that is a myth, you seem to have been sold on. just like the one stating that Jupiter is the supreme god, or was it Zeus?… … Taxes are a cost of being profitable….. but every business knows, you can run a business, and do rather well, and make 0 profit, pay 0 taxes, and life is grand…. you probably do not know this but, any business that is not required to answer to a board of directors, elected by stockholders, probably does get run just that way….They take care of operations first, then what ever profit gets left over, gets invested back into the business, so it DOES NOT get counted as income…..
And government spending does not take money out of the economy.It puts money INTO the economy…. Every other nation knows this. Every economist knows this. Every economics student knows this. The only people who don’t know this are people who’ve never studied economics…. And so to them one can lie that government spending takes money out of the economy…. To actually think that it does, makes mockery out of every small town fighting hard not to have the government close down the operation that keeps that town’s economy alive……
The secret of the economy is to tax the wealthy and use that money to build, build, build…. Like a rocket, the economy takes off…. The wealthy hoard money; it takes a government to say to them…”If you are not going to spend your money, we’re going to take it from you and give to someone who will…” presto… Everybody is working… many two jobs… and spending because they do not have time to do anything else….. and all that spending creates new jobs… and it will then cost much more to put a person in a position, because the employer will have to steal a person away from another position, and yes, that even will benefit computer programmers….
Tax the wealthy, and every American family will make $5,000 a year more within three years. You too!
As for the MSM lying, that happened… they all lied… Perhaps you haven’t been paying attention, but it you wanted the real news, you had to go international… But, today, I saw CNN had wised up… I commented that finally we were seeing a breakthrough of true reporting on television. It was a chart published on this blog two years ago, showing how Republicans had lost millions of jobs, and Democrats had grown them back…. so, it appears for good reporting that even the news corps handlers had turned virulently anti-Republican…. We are finally getting truth…. …..
And as for my model of good reporting which you call “…alarmist and filled with leaps of logic that would earn you a failing grade by any logic professor or J-school of any merit.”….. i am glad you agree….
That was a pasted Fox story I pretended to be the author of… … so you see? You ARE partisan… And it really is alarmist and filled with leaps of logic that would earn a failing grade…. That is what not liberals, but people with brains have been saying about FOX news since its inception… This is sooooo hilarious… You argue that Fox is doing a service, then get subtly tricked into supporting my side of the argument….:)